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obliviousally_ljSo...I popped in the live chat on FurSpace this evening...
[ambersdarkfox]: hello
[obliviousally]: Hi?
[ambersdarkfox]: how are you
[obliviousally]: Decent.
[ambersdarkfox]: anything new going on
[obliviousally]: Not really. Just woke up.
[ambersdarkfox]: 4 am morning times are rough what kinda ork?
[ambersdarkfox]: *work
[obliviousally]: Just stocking.
[ambersdarkfox]: well it is something and it can be very tough
[obliviousally]: Not really, it's what I'm used to doing.
[ambersdarkfox]: you have good art up in your gallerys
[obliviousally]: Thanks.
[ambersdarkfox]: mah fav is the one like its up in a frame
[obliviousally]: Yeah, those are fun to do.
[ambersdarkfox]: those are great
[ambersdarkfox]: me fursonaly I mess up stick men
[obliviousally]: 'Fursonaly'?
[ambersdarkfox]: the furry way of saying personaly
[ambersdarkfox]: like intead of saying verry say furry
[obliviousally]: ...why not just say 'personally'?
[ambersdarkfox]: its a furry thing used for quite a while
[ambersdarkfox]: no I didn't invent or was I the first to use
[obliviousally]: I've been in the fandom ten years and I've never used those words.
[obliviousally]: Always found them incredibly stupid, actually.
[ambersdarkfox]: huh I hear it in the chatrooms and well everywhere
[obliviousally]: I frequent lass...murry-purry chatrooms. Thankfully.
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a way of putting furry in stuffs kinda makeing stuffs our own I ges
[obliviousally]: I don't see why the fandom has to make words 'their own'. There's already perfectly good words to use without messing them up.
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a way to kinda make em feel special like they are doing something things they can use with each other and thats what they do need even tho it sounds silly most furries have it hard enough I say let them enjoy thereselfs I find two commen questions that plauge most furry tho
[ambersdarkfox]: its who am I and why do I exsist I try to help every fur I can if you ask me what the fandom needs is
[obliviousally]: ...but it's just a fandom. Not a lifestyle. Barely even a culture. It's just a bunch of people who like animal-people. Why would they need made up words to get along with each other.
[ambersdarkfox]: something that they can do something that gives them a purpose
[obliviousally]: And I've never had someone, anyone, act like I had the plauge when explaining the fandom.
[obliviousally]: If you ask me, people are too sensitive and overreact.
[ambersdarkfox]: because it may not be to you but to to thousands it is a lifestyle their freinds and may not be a outright culture but it is their lifes
[obliviousally]: But it's /just a fandom/. Honestly, furries take things way too seriously. I think they all need to get out and meet new people with varying hobbies
and interests.
[ambersdarkfox]: no not realy to some it is something that gives them more something they didn't have before
[ambersdarkfox]: and yeah I have seen that many times
[obliviousally]: I find that a little sad. There's other, better things these people could be doing than sitting around and looking at pictures of anthropormophic animals all day long. Like, I don't know, helping other people out in the real world.
[ambersdarkfox]: sometimes you can help others online and there is way more to the fandom than just pics
[ambersdarkfox]: and this online thing sometimes leads to other things not online
[obliviousally]: I really think there's better things to do with ones time, to be honest.
[ambersdarkfox]: sometimes you can just be there for another when they really need it and can do so online what is more important that being there for your freinds
[ambersdarkfox]: the fandom is about more then pics it is also can be just a group of freinds who happen to be furry
[ambersdarkfox]: I have seen the fandom be great things for others
[ambersdarkfox]: I have seen it give a life to others when they had no one that got them till the fandom
[obliviousally]: I don't know, I've been in the fnadom far too long to really see all the bright and shiny things innocent and uninformed noobs see, apparently.
[ambersdarkfox]: I even know a fur who actualy cryed when he found the fandom and found others like him and he found some measure of acceptance
[ambersdarkfox]: I am no noob by any means
[ambersdarkfox]: I know it is a great thing and I gladly cout myself in the ranks of those who call themself proud to be furry
[ambersdarkfox]: tho I do have an outside life I also spend a lot of time as a vol firefighter
[ambersdarkfox]: I just seen to much and see it do great things for many for me to see it as just a fandom I also see it unite others cause realy the fandom is not
all online
[obliviousally]: I just think people take it WAY too seriously.
[ambersdarkfox]: yeah mabbeh so but it shouldn't be taken lightly either
[obliviousally]: ...why not? It's not a big deal.
[ambersdarkfox]: actualy it is
[obliviousally]: It's not. Really. It isn't.
[obliviousally]: If someone thinks furry is a BIG DEAL, they have other, underlying issues to work out.
[ambersdarkfox]: no it is look behind it at what it has done for others what it means to others
[ambersdarkfox]: it is very important to alot of furs
[obliviousally]: Um, it's just a fandom. D:
[obliviousally]: And, god willing, most people will grow out of it.
[ambersdarkfox]: yes and no
[ambersdarkfox]: no not realy
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a fandom and it isn't there is so much more to it then that
[obliviousally]: The smart ones grow out of it, at least.
[ambersdarkfox]: no its not something that needs to be grown out of
[ambersdarkfox]: why should somebody grow out of their freinds and something that has given so many something they realy needed
[obliviousally]: I never said one should 'grow out' of their friends. I have many friends within the fandom, but the fandom isn't all dasies and roses to me like it once was. I've found greener, saner pastures elsewhere.
[ambersdarkfox]: no it is not all dasies and roses there are bad as well but outside isn't exactly sain the way things are going
[ambersdarkfox]: people are just as crazy outside the fandom its just a diffrent kind is all
[obliviousally]: I'm not sure which is worse.
[ambersdarkfox]: at least you can find some that care within the fandom and being in the fandom isn't hideing the fandom has stuff outside the net in the real world and as far as I go I would rather have my freinds who yes happen to be furry then anyone else out among the world
[obliviousally]: I would rather hang out with my friends who make fun of furries than hang out with murry-purry lifestyler furries.
[obliviousally]: And most of those friends ARE furries. Who are sick of the over-acceptance and idiocy they see in the fandom.
[ambersdarkfox]: sounds like bitterness to me
[ambersdarkfox]: why give up on the good of it over some of the bad things
[obliviousally]: Nope. I have no bitterness towards the fandom.
[obliviousally]: I didn't give up on the 'good' of it. I have my friends I found in the fandom. And I have my art.
[obliviousally]: But no one takes furry art seriously in the real world and all my fandom friends have lives outside of the internet and the fandom.
[ambersdarkfox]: you shouldn't care what others think it is better to have someone you can trust to take you seriously then some stranger off the streat and yes I also have a life
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a good thing yes while it may be a fandom there is still so much more to it then that
[ambersdarkfox]: and more then just online
[ambersdarkfox]: it has also given me alot to
[ambersdarkfox]: without it I would even hate to think about not meeting some of the ones I know
[obliviousally]: I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I don't NEED the fandom for anything. It is a passing interest and a hobby. It gives me something to occupy free time with, but that's all. I don't need the approval of people here and I don't need the approval of people in the real world. The fandom is nothing more to me than a fandom. People who take it seriously need to get their priorities in order.
[ambersdarkfox]: no they don't and you do not get what I am saying to others they need it and if you understood exactly what it has given others you would see what I have mean to judge another is wrong tho I can't say I am perfect and to see what I mean you would have to look behind the sences from many diffrent furs a skill not many truly pocess it is something I can't fully describe it is something you have to see for yourself
[obliviousally]: ...how old are you?
[ambersdarkfox]: 23
[ambersdarkfox]: and I have been a furry for a long time
[obliviousally]: How long is a 'long time'?
[ambersdarkfox]: as long as I can remember realy I had some of the feelings and atractions to anthro chacters even when I was littel and no I can't realy describe the feelings
[ambersdarkfox]: and no I am not crazy not yet at least
[obliviousally]: Attractions?
[ambersdarkfox]: honstly do I have to spell that one out *facepaws* any why I can see and feel and I have seen it do great things to others things that shouldn't be looked down on
[obliviousally]: No, see, 'attractions' in the furry fandom has a VERY different meaning most times than it does in the real world.
[ambersdarkfox]: I mean atraction as in a bf gf kinda way
[obliviousally]: So, does that mean you'd rather have an anthropomorphic girlfriend over a real, live girlfriend?
[ambersdarkfox]: not realy I do want a live one hell I had have many but yes I am atracted to antro girls tho
[obliviousally]: At least you have that much sense.
[ambersdarkfox]: but hey if there was a irl anthro girl would prolloy ask her out tho
[obliviousally]: Thankfully, they do not exist.
[redfoxtodd]: theirs no one happy thing that ever happend to me exceped fo Furry
[redfoxtodd]: Furry is the only happy thing that ever happend to me in my life
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: D:
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: DOG HEAD PEOPLE
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: THATS ALL IT IS
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: This is why these people get troll'd
[23:35] Ally the Sparkly: EXACTLY.
[ambersdarkfox]: hello
[obliviousally]: Hi?
[ambersdarkfox]: how are you
[obliviousally]: Decent.
[ambersdarkfox]: anything new going on
[obliviousally]: Not really. Just woke up.
[ambersdarkfox]: 4 am morning times are rough what kinda ork?
[ambersdarkfox]: *work
[obliviousally]: Just stocking.
[ambersdarkfox]: well it is something and it can be very tough
[obliviousally]: Not really, it's what I'm used to doing.
[ambersdarkfox]: you have good art up in your gallerys
[obliviousally]: Thanks.
[ambersdarkfox]: mah fav is the one like its up in a frame
[obliviousally]: Yeah, those are fun to do.
[ambersdarkfox]: those are great
[ambersdarkfox]: me fursonaly I mess up stick men
[obliviousally]: 'Fursonaly'?
[ambersdarkfox]: the furry way of saying personaly
[ambersdarkfox]: like intead of saying verry say furry
[obliviousally]: ...why not just say 'personally'?
[ambersdarkfox]: its a furry thing used for quite a while
[ambersdarkfox]: no I didn't invent or was I the first to use
[obliviousally]: I've been in the fandom ten years and I've never used those words.
[obliviousally]: Always found them incredibly stupid, actually.
[ambersdarkfox]: huh I hear it in the chatrooms and well everywhere
[obliviousally]: I frequent lass...murry-purry chatrooms. Thankfully.
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a way of putting furry in stuffs kinda makeing stuffs our own I ges
[obliviousally]: I don't see why the fandom has to make words 'their own'. There's already perfectly good words to use without messing them up.
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a way to kinda make em feel special like they are doing something things they can use with each other and thats what they do need even tho it sounds silly most furries have it hard enough I say let them enjoy thereselfs I find two commen questions that plauge most furry tho
[ambersdarkfox]: its who am I and why do I exsist I try to help every fur I can if you ask me what the fandom needs is
[obliviousally]: ...but it's just a fandom. Not a lifestyle. Barely even a culture. It's just a bunch of people who like animal-people. Why would they need made up words to get along with each other.
[ambersdarkfox]: something that they can do something that gives them a purpose
[obliviousally]: And I've never had someone, anyone, act like I had the plauge when explaining the fandom.
[obliviousally]: If you ask me, people are too sensitive and overreact.
[ambersdarkfox]: because it may not be to you but to to thousands it is a lifestyle their freinds and may not be a outright culture but it is their lifes
[obliviousally]: But it's /just a fandom/. Honestly, furries take things way too seriously. I think they all need to get out and meet new people with varying hobbies
and interests.
[ambersdarkfox]: no not realy to some it is something that gives them more something they didn't have before
[ambersdarkfox]: and yeah I have seen that many times
[obliviousally]: I find that a little sad. There's other, better things these people could be doing than sitting around and looking at pictures of anthropormophic animals all day long. Like, I don't know, helping other people out in the real world.
[ambersdarkfox]: sometimes you can help others online and there is way more to the fandom than just pics
[ambersdarkfox]: and this online thing sometimes leads to other things not online
[obliviousally]: I really think there's better things to do with ones time, to be honest.
[ambersdarkfox]: sometimes you can just be there for another when they really need it and can do so online what is more important that being there for your freinds
[ambersdarkfox]: the fandom is about more then pics it is also can be just a group of freinds who happen to be furry
[ambersdarkfox]: I have seen the fandom be great things for others
[ambersdarkfox]: I have seen it give a life to others when they had no one that got them till the fandom
[obliviousally]: I don't know, I've been in the fnadom far too long to really see all the bright and shiny things innocent and uninformed noobs see, apparently.
[ambersdarkfox]: I even know a fur who actualy cryed when he found the fandom and found others like him and he found some measure of acceptance
[ambersdarkfox]: I am no noob by any means
[ambersdarkfox]: I know it is a great thing and I gladly cout myself in the ranks of those who call themself proud to be furry
[ambersdarkfox]: tho I do have an outside life I also spend a lot of time as a vol firefighter
[ambersdarkfox]: I just seen to much and see it do great things for many for me to see it as just a fandom I also see it unite others cause realy the fandom is not
all online
[obliviousally]: I just think people take it WAY too seriously.
[ambersdarkfox]: yeah mabbeh so but it shouldn't be taken lightly either
[obliviousally]: ...why not? It's not a big deal.
[ambersdarkfox]: actualy it is
[obliviousally]: It's not. Really. It isn't.
[obliviousally]: If someone thinks furry is a BIG DEAL, they have other, underlying issues to work out.
[ambersdarkfox]: no it is look behind it at what it has done for others what it means to others
[ambersdarkfox]: it is very important to alot of furs
[obliviousally]: Um, it's just a fandom. D:
[obliviousally]: And, god willing, most people will grow out of it.
[ambersdarkfox]: yes and no
[ambersdarkfox]: no not realy
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a fandom and it isn't there is so much more to it then that
[obliviousally]: The smart ones grow out of it, at least.
[ambersdarkfox]: no its not something that needs to be grown out of
[ambersdarkfox]: why should somebody grow out of their freinds and something that has given so many something they realy needed
[obliviousally]: I never said one should 'grow out' of their friends. I have many friends within the fandom, but the fandom isn't all dasies and roses to me like it once was. I've found greener, saner pastures elsewhere.
[ambersdarkfox]: no it is not all dasies and roses there are bad as well but outside isn't exactly sain the way things are going
[ambersdarkfox]: people are just as crazy outside the fandom its just a diffrent kind is all
[obliviousally]: I'm not sure which is worse.
[ambersdarkfox]: at least you can find some that care within the fandom and being in the fandom isn't hideing the fandom has stuff outside the net in the real world and as far as I go I would rather have my freinds who yes happen to be furry then anyone else out among the world
[obliviousally]: I would rather hang out with my friends who make fun of furries than hang out with murry-purry lifestyler furries.
[obliviousally]: And most of those friends ARE furries. Who are sick of the over-acceptance and idiocy they see in the fandom.
[ambersdarkfox]: sounds like bitterness to me
[ambersdarkfox]: why give up on the good of it over some of the bad things
[obliviousally]: Nope. I have no bitterness towards the fandom.
[obliviousally]: I didn't give up on the 'good' of it. I have my friends I found in the fandom. And I have my art.
[obliviousally]: But no one takes furry art seriously in the real world and all my fandom friends have lives outside of the internet and the fandom.
[ambersdarkfox]: you shouldn't care what others think it is better to have someone you can trust to take you seriously then some stranger off the streat and yes I also have a life
[ambersdarkfox]: it is a good thing yes while it may be a fandom there is still so much more to it then that
[ambersdarkfox]: and more then just online
[ambersdarkfox]: it has also given me alot to
[ambersdarkfox]: without it I would even hate to think about not meeting some of the ones I know
[obliviousally]: I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I don't NEED the fandom for anything. It is a passing interest and a hobby. It gives me something to occupy free time with, but that's all. I don't need the approval of people here and I don't need the approval of people in the real world. The fandom is nothing more to me than a fandom. People who take it seriously need to get their priorities in order.
[ambersdarkfox]: no they don't and you do not get what I am saying to others they need it and if you understood exactly what it has given others you would see what I have mean to judge another is wrong tho I can't say I am perfect and to see what I mean you would have to look behind the sences from many diffrent furs a skill not many truly pocess it is something I can't fully describe it is something you have to see for yourself
[obliviousally]: ...how old are you?
[ambersdarkfox]: 23
[ambersdarkfox]: and I have been a furry for a long time
[obliviousally]: How long is a 'long time'?
[ambersdarkfox]: as long as I can remember realy I had some of the feelings and atractions to anthro chacters even when I was littel and no I can't realy describe the feelings
[ambersdarkfox]: and no I am not crazy not yet at least
[obliviousally]: Attractions?
[ambersdarkfox]: honstly do I have to spell that one out *facepaws* any why I can see and feel and I have seen it do great things to others things that shouldn't be looked down on
[obliviousally]: No, see, 'attractions' in the furry fandom has a VERY different meaning most times than it does in the real world.
[ambersdarkfox]: I mean atraction as in a bf gf kinda way
[obliviousally]: So, does that mean you'd rather have an anthropomorphic girlfriend over a real, live girlfriend?
[ambersdarkfox]: not realy I do want a live one hell I had have many but yes I am atracted to antro girls tho
[obliviousally]: At least you have that much sense.
[ambersdarkfox]: but hey if there was a irl anthro girl would prolloy ask her out tho
[obliviousally]: Thankfully, they do not exist.
[redfoxtodd]: theirs no one happy thing that ever happend to me exceped fo Furry
[redfoxtodd]: Furry is the only happy thing that ever happend to me in my life
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: D:
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: DOG HEAD PEOPLE
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: THATS ALL IT IS
[23:35] I AM BATMAN: This is why these people get troll'd
[23:35] Ally the Sparkly: EXACTLY.
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